Marketing 101 in France

By Karen Fawcett

Karen FawcettAmong Bonjour Paris readers, there are relatively few who see France through rose-tinted glasses more than I. Perhaps it may be the Pollyanna in me. But even I have days when I want to pack my bags and get out of Dodge.

A large hairy wart on the face of France is customer service. There is none, and the phrase, service clientèle in French, may accurately be translated as “hang up on the customer.” A sense of humor and patience help a lot, even though I am a bit short of the latter. Another solution—a very good glass of wine from my favorite wine bar, Ô Chateau.

When someone says, Ce n'est pas possible,” I break into a minor sweat. Those words  are not in my vocabulary. Everything is possible except bringing someone back from the dead—and some people would argue over that. To French companies, bringing people back from the dead is more likely than actually having your package delivered.

Why, for example, would anyone be willing to pay to buy something? Beats me, but in France, c’est normal. Case in point, I ordered four chairs from La Redoute because the online retailer has good designs, modest prices and (supposedly) delivers directly to your home.

Placing the order was no problem. The confirmation was immediate. What I didn’t notice was the chairs were to be picked up at a depot around the corner from Au Bon Marché. When I called to find out what was going on, I had to pay for the phone call. Upon arriving at La Maison Propre, which is really a vacuum cleaner and cleaning supplies store, two very unhappy women were less than gracious. They knew nothing about the order except that if I didn’t take it that day, the box containing two chairs would be returned to La Redoute the following day. I wanted all or nothing, which was beyond their comprehension.

OK, I had my cell phone with me and decided to call the store’s “customer service” department. The 08 number answered and I was told there would be a 34 centime per minute charge plus what I was paying Orange (formerly France Telecom, and the new name has made nothing better) to have this lovely discussion. So, I am paying again for the same information. This is making sense to you?

But, problem one: I was not calling from my home phone, so would I return there so the “consultant” would know she was speaking to the correct person? God protect us from scammers who wander into vaccuum cleaner stores, pretend to be the real customer—and demand to have their order actually filled. Horreurs! No, I think not, merci. By this time my voice was reaching a feverish pitch and in my less-than-eloquent French, I made my point and said there was no way I was taking those chairs unless there she could guarantee I’d receive the remainder of the order chez moi and I meant fast. Pas de problème, madame and she promised they would be delivered by the post office within 24-48 hours.

As we were wrapping up the conversation, the store’s representative suggested that because I was such a good client of the store, wouldn’t I love a Carte de Fidélité? My blood pressure rose and (expletive deleted) and… then the absurdity saved the day or at least kept me from dying of apoplexy. The company has charged me twice for phone calls, messed up my order, and generally screwed me over—and they want me to sign up for the loyalty program. You really can’t make this stuff up.

Fast forward. I immediately received an email informing me the chairs would be delivered as promised. Three days later, no chairs and no email, so I decided to call the “customer service” department again. Received the same runaround after paying to speak to someone who said that the box was at the French post office’s warehouse waiting to be picked up for Colissimo delivery and it wasn’t La Redoute’s fault. If anyone heard a scream (OK, it was in my head), I plead guilty. Of course ordering anything from them may be an implicit admission of guilt. Where is the French Kafka when we need him?

call center ©vlima

When I asked to speak to her supervisor, the phone went dead. Calling back would be akin to beating a dead horse and there was no way the store was going to give me a 5 euro rebate for my time and energy, not to mention the phone costs I’d incurred trying to make a purchase.

In the U.S., when you call customer service, you may come away with no satisfaction and you never know where the call center is located unless you ask because it’s probably outsourced to the world of cheap labor. (Hint: very few offshore operators are actually named Isaac, nor are their supervisors usually named Mickey.)

But, at least you don’t have to pay to speak to a representative. I suggested to a French friend that he could have an incredible business teaching French companies Marketing 101. He howled with laughter, said, Ce n'est pas possible,” and we had another glass of wine.

Sometimes it’s simpler that way… and we’re all making bets as to when the chairs will arrive. We’re offering long odds.

(c) Paris New Media, LLC

Karen@BonjourParis.com

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COMMENTS

  • Steve

    Parisian Lover
    Colonial problem ? Perhaps it's just those from the wrong side of the pond that have the problem ?

    I can't fault the service we have had from Darty whenever anything we have had from them has gone wrong. Quick to respond, never charged for more than 1 visit when stuff has been out of guarantee. Local businesses even more attentive
  • Lynn at Southern Fried French

    Parisian Lover
    I live in France and love it but customer service is the thing that drives us crazy. I could tell so many stories like this one, and worse. We politely call it 'having a French experience', which happens sort of daily. As an English friend says, their motto seems to be 'the customer is always wrong." There are many wonderful things about France, but this is not one of them. Great post, needs to be said.
  • Cyril

    Parisian Lover
    French Yes, the customer service in France is not like in the US:
    - People in France take their evening and week end off and refuse to be paid tiny amounts for telephone companies
    - People in the US accept to pay high prices for products (the price of food, real estate, local taxes, are so much higher in the US than in France), and crazy amounts for delivery
    For a better service in France, I would advise to contact local independent family businesses
    For me, no perfect place, but only open minded people can appreciate life
  • Janine Cortell

    Parisian Lover
    Karen, the next time someone says "c'est impossible" you might ask them why there is a well known French proverb: IMPOSSIBLE N'EST PAS FRANCAIS.
  • GypsyGirl

    Parisian Lover
    Goodness, I feel spoiled now. Accidently, I mixed up the numbers of my address, the package got sent clear across the country (and back) when I called after it, they didn't even charge me for the second shipping. I'll confess, when I was studying in Paris last summer, I did always like walking around with my other American students because a group of us would get turned away from a restaurant; though by myself I was fine. However, the upside to French cáfes or restaurants is that once you've sat to occupy a space, they won't kick you out directly after you're done eating and you mustn't feel obligated to but more while you sit there. That's a very different mentality then in the US, where, as they say, time is money.
  • emma

    Parisian Lover
    "Ce n'est pas possible" means it's time to negotiate with the French. It does not mean no. The way to get what you want/need from them is through deference. They want you to recognize their power, as a postal employee, worker at the immigration office or even a waiter (since they have so very little power in their jobs; if you defer to their authority it makes them feel superior). So when you hear "Ce n'est pas possible", you want to respond with "OK. How can you help me find a solution to this problem?", with an emphasis on the "you". Be pleasant but don't smile or they will take you for an idiot and enjoy denying you. But be firm, deferential, and convey that they've got the power to make something happen and it will work...I always end up with what I want/need....even from the French civil servants, notorious naysayers.
  • bill marsano

    Parisian Lover
    French 'Service" 'What the French don't know about marketing could fill a million books'? Indeed it has, but they won't read them.
  • Gina

    Parisian Lover
    Oh Karen...I detest "ce n'est pas possible." I guess for me it just runs so counter to the American idea that everything is possible. Thanks for this...I know who not to order chairs (or anything else) from. And good luck...I'll keep my fingers crossed! P.S...the Bonjour Paris events at O Chateau were fabulous!
    bisous,
    Gina

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